Dragon Naturally Speaking 9.5

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Kern
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Dragon Naturally Speaking 9.5

Post by Kern »

We would like to use Dragon Naturally Speaking to dictate text into TRichView-Components (Ver. 1.9.24) .

We changed some entries in nsapps.ini (Dragon) like
TDBRichViewEdit=4. This entry tells the Dragon software that this field is a Richtext-Field. We made the same entry for TDBMemo which is working all right. Working means, that the field is recognized from the Dragon software as a standard-window.
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Post by Sergey Tkachenko »

TDBMemo uses standard edit control, so external applications must know how to get text from it. But TDBRichViewEdit is not a standard richedit control, so probably it will not work.
It depends on how this software gets text from control. It may use window messages. If it uses WM_GETTEXT, it will not work (this message is supported only if you use Delphi 7 or older; in new versions of Delphi, support for this message is disabled because it conflicts with VCL implementation). If it uses EM_GETTEXTRANGE, it may work.
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Post by Kern »

Hi Sergey

We found some news about the Dragon implementation:
if you want to make your application Select-and-Say compatible with DNS 9, make sure that your application both supports MSAA and that all Windows that support dictation use Text Services Framework.
So there would be a chance to implement TRichView if it uses MSAA? How can we do that?
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Post by Sergey Tkachenko »

I never worked with MSAA. It looks like it requires implementation of IAccessible and may be a couple more interfaces.
Please remind me again after release of next TRichView update (v10.0), planned for February.
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Post by jonjon »

I know this is an old post but did you have a chance to add the required implementation to TRichViewEdit ? Someone just told me that Dragon Natural Speaking didn't work with TRichViewEdit.

Thanks.
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Post by Sergey Tkachenko »

Sorry no, it is still do not implemented.
And I do not have an up-to-date information about features to implement in TRichViewEdit to support DNS; and I cannot even test it because they do not offer trial versions.
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Post by jonjon »

Sergey Tkachenko wrote:I cannot even test it because they do not offer trial versions.
Too bad :(
tothpaul
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Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking 9.5

Post by tothpaul »

Hello,

it's possible to tells Dragon that TRichViewEdit is compatible in nsapps.ini

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[.Global\Global Enable Class Names]
RICHEDIT=2
RichEdit20A=3
RichEdit20W=4
RichEdit20WPT=4
RichEdit50W=4
RichEdit60W=4
Edit=1
TEdit=1
TMemo=1
REComboBox20W=1
TRichEdit=2
RichTextWndClass=2
TRichViewEdit=1
but then TRichViewEdit needs to support more EM_xx messages

for now, my test do not work but here is my code

the messages are not the same according to the value set in the ini
http://nuance.custhelp.com/app/answers/ ... for-dragon

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procedure TRichViewEdit.EMExGetSel(var Msg: TMessage);
var
  SelStart, SelLength: Integer;
  CharRange: ^TCharRange;
begin
  RVGetSelection(Self, SelStart, SelLength);
  CharRange := Pointer(Msg.LParam);
  if SelLength >= 0 then
  begin
    CharRange.cpMin := SelStart;
    CharRange.cpMax := SelStart + SelLength;
  end else begin
    CharRange.cpMin := SelStart + SelLength;
    CharRange.cpMax := SelStart;
  end;
end;

procedure TRichViewEdit.EMGetFirstVisibleLine(var Msg: TMessage);
begin
  Msg.Result := Self.GetLineNo(Self.GetFirstItemVisible, 0) - 1;
end;

procedure TRichViewEdit.EMGetLineCount(var Msg: TMessage);
begin
  Msg.Result := Self.LineCount;
end;

procedure TRichViewEdit.EMLineFromChar(var Msg: TMessage);
var
  Item, Ofs: Integer;
  DT: TCustomRVData;
begin
  if NativeInt(Msg.WParam) = -1 then
  begin
    Item := Self.CurItemNo;
    Ofs := 0;
  end else begin
    LinearToRichView(Self, Self.RVData, Integer(Msg.WParam), DT, Item, Ofs);
  end;
  Msg.Result := Self.GetLineNo(Item, 0);
end;

procedure TRichViewEdit.EMPosFromChar(var Msg: TMessage);
var
  Item, Ofs: Integer;
  Left, Top: Integer;
  DT: TCustomRVData;
  PL: PPointL;
begin
  PL := Pointer(Msg.WParam);
  if IsBadWritePtr(PL, SizeOf(TPointL)) then
  begin
    LinearToRichView(Self, Self.RVData, Integer(Msg.WParam), DT, Item, Ofs);
    Self.GetItemCoords(Item, Left, Top);
    Msg.Result := MakeLong(Left, Top);
  end else begin
    LinearToRichView(Self, Self.RVData, Integer(Msg.LParam), DT, Item, Ofs);
    Self.GetItemCoords(Item, PL.x, PL.Y);
  end;
end;

procedure TRichViewEdit.EMGetCharFormat(var Msg: TMessage);
var
  Format: ^CHARFORMAT2;
  Style: TFontInfo;
begin
  Format := Pointer(Msg.LParam);
  if Format.cbSize >= SizeOf(CHARFORMAT) then
  begin
    Format.dwMask := CFM_BOLD or CFM_ITALIC or CFM_STRIKEOUT or CFM_UNDERLINE;
    Format.dwEffects := 0;
    Style := Self.Style.TextStyles[Self.CurTextStyleNo];
    if fsBold in Style.Style then
      Format.dwEffects := Format.dwEffects or CFE_BOLD;
    if fsItalic in Style.Style then
      Format.dwEffects := Format.dwEffects or CFE_ITALIC;
    if fsStrikeOut in Style.Style then
      Format.dwEffects := Format.dwEffects or CFE_STRIKEOUT;
    if fsUnderline in Style.Style then
      Format.dwEffects := Format.dwEffects or CFE_UNDERLINE;
  end;
end;

procedure TRichViewEdit.EMExSetSel(var Msg: TMessage);
var
  CharRange: ^TCharRange;
begin
  CharRange := Pointer(Msg.LParam);
  if CharRange.cpMin = CharRange.cpMax then
    Deselect
  else
  if (CharRange.cpMin = 0) and (CharRange.cpMax = -1) then
    SelectAll
  else
    RVSetSelection(Self, CharRange.cpMin,
      CharRange.cpMax - CharRange.cpMin);
  Invalidate;
  Msg.Result := MakeLong(CharRange.cpMin, CharRange.cpMax);
end;

procedure TRichViewEdit.EMReplaceSel(var Msg: TMessage);
begin
  Self.InsertText(PChar(Msg.LParam));
end;
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Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking 9.5

Post by Sergey Tkachenko »

The new version of TRIchView supports the following edit/richedit messages:
EM_GETSEL, EM_SETSEL, EM_GETTEXTRANGE, EM_LINEFROMCHAR, EM_EXLINEFROMCHAR, EM_LINELENGTH, EM_LINEINDEX, WM_GETTEXTLENGTH, WM_GETTEXT, WM_SETTEXT.
There is one important thing that I was not able to find in Windows documentation, but found by experiments: how many characters are in line breaks?
As I found, in WM_* messages above, line breaks are counted as 2 characters both in Edit and RichEdit.
But for EM_* messages, there is a difference: line breaks are counted as 2 characters in Edit, but as 1 character in RichEdit.

TRichView uses 2 characters per line break in these events, so it makes sense to introduce it as an Edit, not as a RichEdit. Because of this, messages specific for RichEdits become unnecessary.
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Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking 9.5

Post by tothpaul »

with last version of RVEditDemo.exe, if I set TRichViewEdit=1 (3 or 4), I have a access violation error at 0040712C
I guess it's about EM_POSFROMCHAR when Msg.WParam is not a Pointer to a TPointL structure but a 0 based char index.

If I set TRichViewEdit=2, and I ask Dragon to set text in bold, I have a very strange error with a dialogbox.
the title is "dd10edit"
and the french text talk about COM error HOOKERR_CANNOTINJECT
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Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking 9.5

Post by Sergey Tkachenko »

EM_POSFROMCHAR is not processed by TRichView at all, so probably the error is in another message.
Unfortunately, I do not have DNS to check.
paul.softin
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Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking 9.5

Post by paul.softin »

Hello,

I'm still playing with the Dragon

to implement EM_POSTFROMCHAR I need to return the pixel position of the nth character for the text

I've made a quick test with TMemo with a the text "test"

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EM_POSFROMCHAR -1, 0 returns $FFFFFFFF
EM_POSFROMCHAR  0, 0 returns MakeLong(1, 4)
EM_POSFROMCHAR  1, 0 returns MakeLong(1, 10)
EM_POSFROMCHAR  2, 0 returns MakeLong(1, 16)
EM_POSFROMCHAR  3, 0 returns MakeLong(1, 22)
EM_POSFROMCHAR  4, 0 returns $FFFFFFFF
I guess I could use LinearToRichView and Item2DrawItem but I don't see how to get individual character position.

Thanks

for information, here a the notable message when Dragon add a text "test" in a TMemo, select the text and make it bold (Ctrl+G with the french term "Gras")

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[MEMO: 09:57:16] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:16] EM_GETSEL 0x18FB94  0x18FB98 -> 0, 0 / 0, 0
[MEMO: 09:57:16] EM_GETFIRSTVISIBLELINE 0x0000  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:16] EM_GETLINECOUNT 0x0000  0x0000 -> 1
[MEMO: 09:57:16] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:16] EM_GETSEL 0x18FB54  0x18FB58 -> 0, 0 / 0, 0
[MEMO: 09:57:16] EM_LINEFROMCHAR 0x0000  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:16] EM_LINEFROMCHAR 0x0000  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:16] EM_POSFROMCHAR 0x0000  0x0000 -> 65535, 65535
[MEMO: 09:57:16] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:16] WM_GETTEXT 0x0100  0x18EB8C ->
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_SETSEL 0, 0
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_REPLACESEL 0x0001  0x58D002C "Test"
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_SETSEL 4, 4
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_GETSEL 0x18FB94  0x18FB98 -> 4, 4 / 4, 4
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_GETFIRSTVISIBLELINE 0x0000  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_GETLINECOUNT 0x0000  0x0000 -> 1
[MEMO: 09:57:17] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 4
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_GETSEL 0x18FB54  0x18FB58 -> 4, 4 / 4, 4
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_LINEFROMCHAR 0x0004  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_LINEFROMCHAR 0x0004  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_POSFROMCHAR 0x0004  0x0000 -> 65535, 65535
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_POSFROMCHAR 0x0003  0x0000 -> 1, 21
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_LINEFROMCHAR 0x0004  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_LINEFROMCHAR 0x0003  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:17] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 4
[MEMO: 09:57:17] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 4
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_GETSEL 0x18FB94  0x18FB98 -> 4, 4 / 4, 4
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_GETFIRSTVISIBLELINE 0x0000  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_GETLINECOUNT 0x0000  0x0000 -> 1
[MEMO: 09:57:17] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 4
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_GETSEL 0x18FB54  0x18FB58 -> 4, 4 / 4, 4
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_LINEFROMCHAR 0x0004  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_LINEFROMCHAR 0x0004  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_POSFROMCHAR 0x0004  0x0000 -> 65535, 65535
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_POSFROMCHAR 0x0003  0x0000 -> 1, 21
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_LINEFROMCHAR 0x0004  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:17] EM_LINEFROMCHAR 0x0003  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:17] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 4
[MEMO: 09:57:17] WM_GETTEXT 0x0104  0x18EB8C -> Test
[MEMO: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0xFFFFFFFF OBJID_WINDOW -> $0000
[MEMO: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0x0000 OBJID_QUERYCLASSNAMEIDX -> $10004
[MEMO: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0xFFFFFFFF OBJID_SYSMENU -> $0000
[MEMO: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0xFFFFFFFF OBJID_TITLEBAR -> $0000
[MEMO: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0xFFFFFFFF OBJID_MENU -> $0000
[MEMO: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0xFFFFFFFF OBJID_CLIENT -> $0000
[MEMO: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0x0000 OBJID_QUERYCLASSNAMEIDX -> $10004
[MEMO: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0xFFFFFFFF OBJID_VSCROLL -> $0000
[MEMO: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0xFFFFFFFF OBJID_HSCROLL -> $0000
[MEMO: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0xFFFFFFFF OBJID_SIZEGRIP -> $0000
[RVE: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0xFFFFFFFF OBJID_WINDOW -> $0000
[RVE: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0x0000 OBJID_QUERYCLASSNAMEIDX -> $0000
[RVE: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0xFFFFFFFF OBJID_SYSMENU -> $0000
[RVE: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0xFFFFFFFF OBJID_TITLEBAR -> $0000
[RVE: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0xFFFFFFFF OBJID_MENU -> $0000
[RVE: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0xFFFFFFFF OBJID_CLIENT -> $0000
[RVE: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0x0000 OBJID_QUERYCLASSNAMEIDX -> $0000
[RVE: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0xFFFFFFFF OBJID_VSCROLL -> $0000
[RVE: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0xFFFFFFFF OBJID_HSCROLL -> $0000
[RVE: 09:57:17] WM_GETOBJECT  0xFFFFFFFF OBJID_SIZEGRIP -> $0000
[MEMO: 09:57:18] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 4
[MEMO: 09:57:18] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 4
[MEMO: 09:57:18] EM_GETSEL 0x18FB94  0x18FB98 -> 4, 4 / 4, 4
[MEMO: 09:57:18] EM_GETFIRSTVISIBLELINE 0x0000  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:18] EM_GETLINECOUNT 0x0000  0x0000 -> 1
[MEMO: 09:57:18] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 4
[MEMO: 09:57:18] EM_GETSEL 0x18FB54  0x18FB58 -> 4, 4 / 4, 4
[MEMO: 09:57:18] EM_LINEFROMCHAR 0x0004  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:18] EM_LINEFROMCHAR 0x0004  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:18] EM_POSFROMCHAR 0x0004  0x0000 -> 65535, 65535
[MEMO: 09:57:18] EM_POSFROMCHAR 0x0003  0x0000 -> 1, 21
[MEMO: 09:57:18] EM_LINEFROMCHAR 0x0004  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:18] EM_LINEFROMCHAR 0x0003  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:18] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 4
[MEMO: 09:57:18] WM_GETTEXT 0x0104  0x18EB8C -> Test
[MEMO: 09:57:18] EM_SETSEL 0, 4
[MEMO: 09:57:18] EM_GETSEL 0x18FB94  0x18FB98 -> 0, 4 / 4, 0
[MEMO: 09:57:18] EM_GETFIRSTVISIBLELINE 0x0000  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:18] EM_GETLINECOUNT 0x0000  0x0000 -> 1
[MEMO: 09:57:18] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 4
[MEMO: 09:57:18] EM_GETSEL 0x18FB54  0x18FB58 -> 0, 4 / 4, 0
[MEMO: 09:57:18] EM_LINEFROMCHAR 0x0000  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:18] EM_LINEFROMCHAR 0x0003  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:18] EM_POSFROMCHAR 0x0000  0x0000 -> 1, 4
[MEMO: 09:57:19] WM_KEYDOWN 0x0011  0x1D0001 VK_CONTROL -> $0001
[MEMO: 09:57:19] WM_KEYDOWN 0x0047  0x220001 G -> $0001
[MEMO: 09:57:19] WM_CHAR 0x0007  0x220001 -> $0001
[MEMO: 09:57:19] WM_KEYUP 0x0047  0xC0220001 G -> $0000
[MEMO: 09:57:19] WM_KEYUP 0x0011  0xC01D0001 VK_CONTROL -> $0000
[MEMO: 09:57:19] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 4
[MEMO: 09:57:19] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 4
[MEMO: 09:57:19] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 4
[MEMO: 09:57:19] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 4
[MEMO: 09:57:19] EM_GETSEL 0x18FB94  0x18FB98 -> 0, 4 / 4, 0
[MEMO: 09:57:19] EM_GETFIRSTVISIBLELINE 0x0000  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:19] EM_GETLINECOUNT 0x0000  0x0000 -> 1
[MEMO: 09:57:19] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 4
[MEMO: 09:57:19] EM_GETSEL 0x18FB54  0x18FB58 -> 0, 4 / 4, 0
[MEMO: 09:57:19] EM_LINEFROMCHAR 0x0000  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:19] EM_LINEFROMCHAR 0x0003  0x0000 -> 0
[MEMO: 09:57:19] EM_POSFROMCHAR 0x0000  0x0000 -> 1, 4
[MEMO: 09:57:19] WM_GETTEXTLENGTH 0x0000  0x0000 -> 4
[MEMO: 09:57:19] WM_GETTEXT 0x0104  0x18EB8C -> Test
[MEMO: 09:57:19] EM_SETSEL 4, 4
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Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking 9.5

Post by paul.softin »

Hello,

Finally I got it working

1) add TRichViewEdit=1 in nsapps.ini
2) handle this messages

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 TRichViewEdit = class(RVEdit.TRichViewEdit)
  private
    FLastPos: Integer;
    FLastChar: Integer;
    FLastLen: Integer;
    FLastText: string;  
    procedure EMReplaceSel(var Msg: TMessage); message EM_REPLACESEL;
    procedure EMPosFromChar(var Msg: TMessage); message EM_POSFROMCHAR;
    procedure WMGetTextLength(var Message: TMessage); message WM_GETTEXTLENGTH;
    procedure WMGetText(var Message: TMessage); message WM_GETTEXT;
    procedure WMSetText(var Message: TMessage); message WM_SETTEXT;
  protected
    procedure DoChange(ClearRedo: Boolean); override;
  function
    function IsEmpty: Boolean;    
  end;
  
procedure TRichViewEdit.EMReplaceSel(var Msg: TMessage);
begin
  InsertText(PChar(Msg.LParam));
end;

procedure TRichViewEdit.EMPosFromChar(var Msg: TMessage);
var
  DT: TCustomRVData;
  Item, Ofs: Integer;
  DItem, DOfs: Integer;
begin
  Msg.Result := -1;
  if FLastLen < 0 then
    FLastLen := RVGetTextLength(Self);
  if (not IsEmpty) and (Integer(Msg.WParam) < FLastLen) then
  begin
    if Integer(Msg.WParam) = FLastPos then
      Msg.Result := FLastChar
    else begin
      FLastPos := Integer(Msg.WParam);
      if LinearToRichView(Self, Self.RVData, FLastPos, DT, Item, Ofs) then
      begin
        Self.TopLevelEditor.RVData.Item2DrawItem(Item, Ofs, DItem, DOfs);
        if DItem >= 0 then
        begin
          Left := Self.TopLevelEditor.RVData.DrawItems[DItem].Left + DOfs;
          Top := Self.TopLevelEditor.RVData.DrawItems[DItem].Top;
          Msg.Result := MakeLong(Top, Left);
        end;
      end;
      FLastChar := Msg.Result;
    end;
  end;
end;

procedure TRichViewEdit.WMGetTextLength(var Message: TMessage);
begin
  if FLastLen < 0 then
  begin
    if IsEmpty then
      FLastLen := 0
    else
      FLastLen := RVGetTextLength(Self);
  end;
  Message.Result := FLastLen
end;

procedure TRichViewEdit.WMGetText(var Message: TMessage);
var
  Len: Integer;
begin
  if FLastText = #0 then
  begin
    FLastText := RVGetTextRange(Self, 0, -1);
  end;
  if (Message.WParam <= 0) or (FLastText = '') then
    Message.Result := 0
  else begin
    Len := Length(FLastText) + 1;
    if Message.WParam < WPARAM(Len) then
      Len := Message.WParam;
    if Message.LParam <> 0 then
      Move(PChar(FLastText)^, Pointer(Message.LParam)^, Len * SizeOf(Char));
    Message.Result := Len - 1;
  end;
end;

procedure TRichViewEdit.WMSetText(var Message: TMessage);
begin
  Clear;
  AddTextNL(PChar(Message.LParam), 0, 0, 0);
  Format;
  Message.Result := 1;
end;

function TRichViewEdit.IsEmpty: Boolean;
begin
  Result := (csDestroying in ComponentState) or (ItemCount = 0) or ((ItemCount = 1) and (GetItemStyle(0) >= 0) and (GetItemText(0)= ''));
end;

procedure TRichViewEdit.DoChange(ClearRedo: Boolean);
begin
// Note that "Dragon Medical One" send EM_LINEFROMCHAR, EM_POSFROMCHAR, WM_GETTEXT, WM_GETTEXTLENGTH, WM_GETSEL...
// mutltiple times per second and TRichEdit is blinking ! so I keep the last computed values until DoChange is called
  inherited;
  FLastPos := -1;
  FLastLen := -1;
  FLastText := #0;
end;
For Dragon Medical One, you have to use the Standalone version and change SOD.exe.Config to add a TextControlMappings section inside ApplicationSettings to map TRichViewEdit to a TMemo

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<applicationSettings>
...
   <TextControlMappings>
    <TextControlMapping Control="TMemo">
      <WindowClass>TRichViewEdit</WindowClass>
    </TextControlMapping>
  </TextControlMappings>    
 </applicationSettings>
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Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking 9.5

Post by tothpaul »

damned ! the flickering is back :/ since I've updated to last version of RV (from an old version)

I have to dig into the methods...

when Dragon Medical One is active I have this messages permanently

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procedure TRichViewEdit.WndProc(var Msg: TMessage);
begin
{
[DRAGON]       EM_POSFROMCHAR             463,               0 :           65562
[DRAGON]           WM_GETFONT               0,               0 :               0
[DRAGON]     WM_GETTEXTLENGTH               0,               0 :             567
[DRAGON]           WM_GETTEXT             568,         1697740 :             567
[DRAGON]           WM_GETTEXT            1079,         1697740 :             567
[DRAGON]             WM_PAINT               0,               0 :               0
[DRAGON]     WM_GETTEXTLENGTH               0,               0 :             567
[DRAGON]           WM_GETTEXT             568,         1697852 :             567
[DRAGON]            EM_GETSEL       220064896,       220064900 :        30343631
[DRAGON]            EM_GETSEL         1702336,         1702324 :        30343631
[DRAGON]      EM_LINEFROMCHAR             463,               0 :              16
[DRAGON]      EM_LINEFROMCHAR             463,               0 :              16
[DRAGON] WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING               0,         1700956 :               0
[DRAGON]              WM_MOVE               0,         1835016 :               0
[DRAGON]  WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGED               0,         1700956 :               0
[DRAGON] WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING               0,         1700516 :               0
[DRAGON]           WM_NCPAINT      1057236589,               0 :               0
[DRAGON]        WM_ERASEBKGND       352395496,               0 :               1
[DRAGON]              WM_MOVE               0,         1835011 :               0
[DRAGON]  WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGED               0,         1700516 :               0
[DRAGON] WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING               0,         1700956 :               0
[DRAGON]           WM_NCPAINT      1308894829,               0 :               0
[DRAGON]        WM_ERASEBKGND       771824417,               0 :               1
[DRAGON]              WM_MOVE               0,        18677763 :               0
[DRAGON]  WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGED               0,         1700956 :               0
[DRAGON] WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING               0,         1700516 :               0
[DRAGON]           WM_NCPAINT      1594107501,               0 :               0
[DRAGON]        WM_ERASEBKGND      3120636672,               0 :               1
[DRAGON]              WM_MOVE               0,         1835011 :               0
[DRAGON]  WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGED               0,         1700516 :               0
[DRAGON]       EM_POSFROMCHAR             463,               0 :           65562
[DRAGON]           WM_GETFONT               0,               0 :               0
[DRAGON]     WM_GETTEXTLENGTH               0,               0 :             567
[DRAGON]           WM_GETTEXT             568,         1697740 :             567
[DRAGON]           WM_GETTEXT            1079,         1697740 :             567
[DRAGON]             WM_PAINT               0,               0 :               0
[DRAGON]     WM_GETTEXTLENGTH               0,               0 :             567
[DRAGON]           WM_GETTEXT             568,         1697852 :             567
[DRAGON]            EM_GETSEL       220064896,       220064900 :        30343631
[DRAGON]            EM_GETSEL         1702336,         1702324 :        30343631
[DRAGON]      EM_LINEFROMCHAR             463,               0 :              16
[DRAGON]      EM_LINEFROMCHAR             463,               0 :              16
[DRAGON] WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING               0,         1700956 :               0
[DRAGON]              WM_MOVE               0,         1835016 :               0
[DRAGON]  WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGED               0,         1700956 :               0
[DRAGON] WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING               0,         1700516 :               0
[DRAGON]           WM_NCPAINT      3607374263,               0 :               0
[DRAGON]        WM_ERASEBKGND       738272853,               0 :               1
[DRAGON]              WM_MOVE               0,         1835011 :               0
[DRAGON]  WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGED               0,         1700516 :               0
[DRAGON] WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING               0,         1700956 :               0
[DRAGON]           WM_NCPAINT      3859032503,               0 :               0
[DRAGON]        WM_ERASEBKGND      3120636672,               0 :               1
[DRAGON]              WM_MOVE               0,        18677763 :               0
[DRAGON]  WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGED               0,         1700956 :               0
[DRAGON] WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING               0,         1700516 :               0
[DRAGON]           WM_NCPAINT      4177799607,               0 :               0
[DRAGON]        WM_ERASEBKGND       352395496,               0 :               1
[DRAGON]              WM_MOVE               0,         1835011 :               0
[DRAGON]  WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGED               0,         1700516 :               0

}
  inherited;
  WriteLn('[DRAGON] ', MessageName(Msg.Msg):20, ' ', Msg.wParam:15, ', ', Msg.lParam:15, ' : ', Msg.Result:15);
end;
Sergey, have you any idea of what can produce a move/paint in that messages ?
tothpaul
Posts: 42
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:41 am

Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking 9.5

Post by tothpaul »

hum...it seems that LinearToRichView is the source of the pb

my patch was to avoid a second call when the last computed value is known but it doesn't work anymore

Code: Select all

[DRAGON]     WM_GETTEXTLENGTH               0,               0 :             570
[DRAGON]           WM_GETTEXT             571,         1697724 :             570
[DRAGON]           WM_GETTEXT            1082,         1697724 :             570
[DRAGON]             WM_PAINT               0,               0 :               0
[DRAGON]     WM_GETTEXTLENGTH               0,               0 :             570
[DRAGON]           WM_GETTEXT             571,         1697836 :             570
[DRAGON]            EM_GETSEL       254365200,       254365204 :        26608022 => (406, 406)
[DRAGON]            EM_GETSEL         1702352,         1702340 :        26608022
[DRAGON]      EM_LINEFROMCHAR             406,               0 :              11
[DRAGON]      EM_LINEFROMCHAR             406,               0 :              11
[CAPTURE] EMPosFromChar (FLastLen = 570)
 > LinearToRichView for 406
[DRAGON] WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING               0,         1700924 :               0
[DRAGON]              WM_MOVE               0,         1835023 :               0
[DRAGON]  WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGED               0,         1700924 :               0
[DRAGON] WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING               0,         1700484 :               0
[DRAGON]           WM_NCPAINT       772021604,               0 :               0
[DRAGON]        WM_ERASEBKGND      3993061038,               0 :               1
[DRAGON]              WM_MOVE               0,         1835011 :               0
[DRAGON]  WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGED               0,         1700484 :               0
[DRAGON] WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING               0,         1700924 :               0
[DRAGON]           WM_NCPAINT       822353252,               0 :               0
[DRAGON]        WM_ERASEBKGND      3288402874,               0 :               1
[DRAGON]              WM_MOVE               0,        13107203 :               0
[DRAGON]  WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGED               0,         1700924 :               0
[DRAGON] WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING               0,         1700484 :               0
[DRAGON]           WM_NCPAINT       889462116,               0 :               0
[DRAGON]        WM_ERASEBKGND      3993061038,               0 :               1
[DRAGON]              WM_MOVE               0,         1835011 :               0
[DRAGON]  WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGED               0,         1700484 :               0
[DRAGON]       EM_POSFROMCHAR             406,               0 :           65562
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